. According to the story, Martin, in the first 90 seconds of his attack had killed 20 people, with 29 bullets; 21 were shot in the head, one survived. (5.Y, Obviously (6.N, Obviously. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. There were plenty of ambulances lined up at the curb, but no action. Browse more videos. I really don't know right now. People try and say its our violent past, but countries like Germany have had more violence in their past than we have yet they do not have this issue. 32'/sec² ok lets break this down If you have nothing to add, just shut your traitorous face. Fred reflects on the events of that day. Or be working for big or small government. And you would say it could not be accomplished for the same reasons everyone blows holes in your theories. do not blames guns, .. blame the lack of care we actually have for our fellow human beings around us as a society. Was it televised? Why couldn't all or certainly most of the people in that VT documentary be actors, or paid handsomely to be "directed" as they certainly seemed. ciao. And do you actually believe MILLIONS of people think this shooting was some giant conspiracy? Keep talking, someday you'll say something intelligent. Wow, that's scary...I feel really bad for his family. Any one can see that the current gun laws do much more than just provide people with basic access to basic protective weapons. Compared to USA, you cant buy these guns here In Denmark. you think your little felony gun charge is a deterent ??? And i was thinking "wow,a very long history in school-shootings - what the hell is going on over there?". They say it is violent video games and movies, but other countries watch the same movies and play the same games. By Amy Minsky Global News Posted October 2, 2017 2:04 pm . Happy that Osama bin Laden was killed while Papa Bush was lunching with Osama's brother at the Carlyle? You have no proof that VT was a false flag operation but you still believe that it is. Combined, there are more than 200k people following us through these channels: You should sign up for our newsletter. Unless that is the primary aim of your posts and not the content. Its very divided, and of course DIVERSE in culture. This is a technique called Bad Jacketing/Death by Association/Smear Campaign - by including the target idea/individual/movement along with another topic or personality that is disliked or discredited (UFOs, anti-semitism, nazis, etc. I am not korean, but chinese. Seeing all of this happening can bring on a feeling of helplessness which causes some to lash out in unpredictable and violent ways. It don't take a rocket scientist to finger that out . I'm outta here. I don't want to come across as a cowboy, but the right to defend yourself is an option we all should have. That was real and emotional. Pathetic! Society IS sick, just look at the coming economic collapse. To be honest you sound very mentally ill and you should probably seek some kind of treatment. It may be easier to get the RPG's in Ireland. @az Get the tinfoil off your head. No one needs these kinds of weapons to protect themselves and if you only have it for a hobby, is that hobby really worth people dieing? To brake out . But if those guns weren't around, the disturbed kids and students couldn't have killed as many people as they did.. It's more that i'm not engineered to speak when i feel certain ways. My point however is that here in the u.s. there is a deeper seated problem than just access to weapons. Really, when everyone is clamoring for CSH's mental health files, it never occurred that the Director took them home, or even that the Director never thought about it? (Elements of the review started the week immediately following the shooting) The Governor felt it was important to identify any campus safeguards or executive orders needed before students returned to classes at Virginia Tech … so now we are talking about 911, why? T(for WTC bldg's1&2) ? Dangerous place actually. But...yeah, the states is crazy. This information documentary story behind Cho Seung Hui, a South Korean student at Virginia Tech University, who has committed mass murder of 32 people and wounded 25 others in the shooting has come to be known as the Virginia Tech slaughter . Any reporter can check easily accessed documents to prove these people did not really go to school here or live here or even exist, and trust me there are plenty of them that would jump at the chance to expose such a thing. If 9/11 was a false flag operation why couldn't VT be also, which I believe it was? I developed social anxiety as a child. Corcoran, the second amendment is a constitutional right. "Did you see the bodies?" Do you mind answering yes or no to a few conspiracy questions? I read all of your posts trumpashead. his last words to his male friend was taking his own life . You set up a false choice, either we have the current gun laws or they take all guns. YOU CANNOT PREVENT what happens to this earth, to people, to yourself. When the US ran out of Native Americans to corral we started to move about the world trying to do the same thing to other cultures. people saw me as weird, and often they showed it by poking fun of me. This entire world was once one land mass. There is nothing wrong with carrying a fire arm for self defense, and if you don't want one... that's fine too. y/n Dismantle the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, just trade ones freedom for safety. He instead opted for paper targets, so as not to injure any animals - this was one of the few lines the police allowed to be printed in transcripts from their 8 months of interviews with Bryant, who was held in solitary confinement, until he admitted his guilt, at the insistence of a government appointed lawyer). "Oftentimes I have heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world. Yes it was, jerk52. In this undated photo released by the Virginia State Police, Cho Seung-Hui is shown. One look at my country and its lopsided poverty plagued condition and it's no wonder that we have to use force in order to bring "our way of life" to others. And you're telling me mournful? I think the rejection of his society (fellows, teachers, women) did hurt him most. For my money honey, that was the kind of film I'd expect a govt propaganda machine to make, devoid of humanity and spontaneity, nada. You said how can so many people be in on a coverup at VT, the students, teachers, even parents. And being told that there is something wrong with silence to the point where it is branded a disease (just like hyperactivity in children has somehow become a disease. Ok, maybe some informations were not sufficient evaluated, but he disguise his latter violant nature very good. And I was 12'000 km away, at college. Now this is where it gets really gray, but you have me curious. In reply to C and N, This is common for true introverts. Maybe I should just shut up because every time I speak about what is going on in America I feel I am in the land of the walking dead. you don't even know me but you feel qualified to make accusations about someone you never met. only 1 dead in Montreal, hardly the worst... its also less than an hour to the us border. Of course these wars are directly tied to and enabled by, 9/11. Be accurate, not passionate, if you don't mind. Here's something: the only person who literally jumped out the window and escaped that day, Jeff Soriano, was killed in a fireball car accident one week later. Oh, just an oversight. I watch the smallest amount of news as i can. I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. Award winning poet Fred D'Aguiar is head of creative writing at Virginia Tech. I hope he is just some crazy. However, James....evolution. Bust the case wide open for all of us poor illiterate children (priceless). I suppose it's different for everyone but my experience in a chinese family is they don't believe in the work of psychotherapists. I am pretty sure the US won't get rid of pistols. But it did not happen the way govt said it happened; it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that 9/11's three bldg crash were Demolitioned. But, it always should be a choice. Newtonian Mechanics dictates that the free-fall collapses of World Trade Center buildings 1,2,&7, were each the result of controlled demolition. Was I the only American patriot glued to the tv for two days because I saw something no one else saw? I also hold a job in the theology department of the college I attend and am completing my second degree currently, majoring in physics. The bill was then passed by both houses of Congress. Az. Woooow is all i can say... You take a tragedy that has an obvious and verifiable explanation and twist it to fit your own selfish fantasy world. Cho just stop communicating like four walls just close him off from the world with no door to walk out . In Canada people are a lot less religious, a bit more cynic/pragmatic and they are not involved in war mongering for 100 years. Did you see blood? Par for the course. Have you met the average college student? Ffo's have been an effective means of rallying the people since the beginning of time. I think it is insane that these young people could get these weapons so easily. Thought maybe I could enlighten you. Ffs i'm not even gonna reply to him directly he scares me and is sound's like he has gun's or think we should all have them. What ponds are you talking about? When seconds count, the police arrive in minutes (Or hours). If he would of slept with one girl . Martin was a clinically defined retard, with an IQ of 65 and the demeanor of a 12 year old. PS: I guess you like it, that some countries have a-bombs( because they have to protect themselves, of course). Of course it happened. I understand your frustration. Columbine is a place where we had another school shooting here in the u.s., this time it was a high school. BTW, in your reply, the correct spelling is right "TO" self defence, not "TOO". I read some comments who disliked what you have to say, and I don't think it was what you said but how you said it. ciao. the onus is on you. I thought maybe they came from where Jimmy Carter grew up 'cause he smiles at the end of his sentences constantly, but this was eery, I thought they were actually having difficulty containing their mirth as each family (parents and/or siblings) recounted a similar format of each student's life and character. It was a very large man who I doubt was a student. No, it was not televised? I will only point out that your right to bare (sic) arms gives you the right to short sleeved shirts. To lose a family member and then to have someone say that it is a lie and that it never happened would be especially painful. Not because they have a disease but because they shouldn't have been put in these situations to begin with. Kind of defeats their goal doesn't it? This documentary details the story behind Cho Seung Hui, a South Korean student at Virginia Tech University, who committed a mass murder of 32 people and wounded 25 others in the shooting rampage which has come to be known as the Virginia Tech massacre. This world will do what it wants and we need to just let it be. The VT attack was about mental illness and the ready availability of guns and how the two combined often lead to tragedy. Consider the following: The USA PATRIOT Act, at 342 pages, consisting of 156 separate sections, under 10 discrete titles, covering 350 subject areas involving 40 different federal agencies, was written within the 3 week period prior to its introduction to Congress, on Oct 2, 2001, at the average calculated rate of 16 pages per day. . Karma is the teaching about the complexities of human action. All he had to do was read to see you were mixing these topics, not us. I don't think parents are the be all and all to justify a person when he becomes an adult. Civil liberties are under attack in America, if you think gun control will save you, go to Mexico (heavy gun control, only the criminals get to have the guns) or China (no civilian firearms people are forced in slave labor for the government). See how this works? A Virginia judge on Tuesday approved an $11 million settlement from the state to the families of victims killed or injured in last year's Virginia Tech shootings. I was up at the crack of dawn on that day and watched as the first dormitory murders were announced; Fox News was on for the remainder of the day (at least I think it was Fox) and all other channels showed once in a while "breaking news" which was only what Fox was showing all day. You are actually bringing up some interesting truths, and mixing it with 100% pure wack job? You would never run the risk of being proved wrong since that would be more devastating to you than the loss of those innocent lives on that horrible day. I do know where to start though. I am also inclined to say there is a lot to do with how easy it is for people to simply give up on their families, a major source of understanding and comfort. Was 9/11 a false flag operation or not? Die Tat gehört neben dem Schulmassaker von Bath (1927), dem Amoklauf an der Columbine High School (1999), dem Amoklauf an der Sandy Hook Elementary School (2012) und dem Schulmassaker von Parkland (2018) zu den folgenschwersten Gewaltverbrechen an einer Bildungseinrichtung in den Vereinigten Staaten. If you KNOW more what are you waiting on man, spill it. The 9/11 official report is unquestionably a "conspiracy theory" and a poor one given that most of the claims and timetable regarding the towers, PA crash, and Pentagon have more unanswered questions than sensible, logical and verifiable answers. People like you are exactly what gives the whole conspiracy theory scene a bad name. Americans should be able to carry guns but automatic weapons should not be for sale to regular citizens. If he had of just had a standard clip much fewer people would have died that day. Please do not tarnish an innocent man with the deeds of another, without conclusive evidence. I'm all for moving to Switzerland, probably the most Democratic country on the planet, and they apparently don't get involved with wars. My life got better after school, but I know how lonely it can be. I believe there is much more to this story than the media would have us believe. I am very concerned. Now about false flag operations. Now I think gun control is a bad idea, but proper gun training is a good thing. You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked; for they stand together before the face of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together....." ect. Of course the fact that the "shooter" sent the media a publicity press kit anonymously through the mail didn't matter to the media jackals. Was bin Laden responsible for 9/11? Give me a break junior, your out of your league on this site, all opinions and assertions with no real facts or even common sense. One question: Have you ever gotten a lobotomy? I sent a mail to VT and told them that all of my colleagues and I felt that day we all belong to VT. And most people think we live in a free country, ha. my dad on the other hand is afraid a stranger will try to trick and launder off with their money in a scam. I felt that this man was not dead, and they showed that clip over a thousand times since the only News you saw was a five minute loop all damn day. Virginia Tech Shooting, One Year On Award winning poet Fred D'Aguiar is head of creative writing at Virginia Tech. ), the original subject can be smeared and dismissed. It is supposed to be available on Amazon. I just have to ask, are you Cho Seung Hui reincarnated? Prove to the rest of us that you are not crazy. People with guns - that is. Its named after one particular incident but it tries to cover the larger problem of why we have so much killing. in Music Technology at Maynooth Univercity, Kildare. What is your evidence that Tech was a PSYOP. Why aren't you proof demanders demanding proof that govt is Not trying to destroy America when every action and decision is totally against American citizens. I firmly believe that we are headed for a Great Depression because of people like YOU, jerks who cannot see the lies, and accept all that govt says. **One victim died at the scene, while another 19 were injured, eight of whom were listed in critical condition with six requiring surgery. no? You have even got some guy talking about how we are trying to mix conspiracies to discredit them all, we didn't mix them- you did. No? Or are you just channeling him? I'm certain you are a walking dead. I thought this documentary was done so clinically and devoid of all feeling, almost no emotion to speak of. I watched the interviews with parents shortly after the kids were killed (the next day I guess it was) and as I mention in detail in another post here, I was shocked by the smiles and unbelievable wrong emotions that were presented to viewers. Get a life. I don't think you are a sheep . Hum......... I know what's going on in our country, and watched every minute of the day on two tv's and counted about 31 anomalies that convinced me it was a false flag operation. Every living creature has the natural right of self-defense. they label him as some strange crazy college student . 9/11 proved Demolition but can we take action on that? NEWSFLASH - As smugglers rely on stealth, the last thing they want is a gun fight with innocent people and even more so with authorities. My father doesn't believe therapy either and he's Dutch. 4/16/07: Virginia Tech Massacre You see, when someone writes "(sic)" it informs others that there is an apparent error in the preceding quote. by continuing what little psychiatric help he was getting from school to school he could have maintained a level of observation to have kept him from the event at Virginia tech. Still, I believe in the Second Amendment of the Constitution... period. Anyway, why must there be "proof" if there is no "independent" and satisfactory investigation? How about cut foreign relations with holland because they sell drugs in bars there? They don't even believe I have narcolepsy! I agree, he probably did understand more than most what is happening to America and the world, but also they skipped over the fact that he was on antipsychotic drugs, which is sure to rewire your brain temporary or permantly. I missed not one interview, was glued to the tv for two days because I saw anomalies left and right, and thought something terrible evil thing was unfolding before my eyes and I caught it. haha, actually you have a point there Wald0. hell, my own mother thinks only crazy or mentally retarded people need to see therapists. and who would bomb it since millions of secret bank accounts are kept there; it must be off limits to attack. I think you are not as clever as you may think. Talk to the students and teachers, find those who claim to be related to the shooting victims, corner all those you call actors and expose them. But i can't. F = ma, where a ? I see nothing wrong with mixing cultures in fact I think it is a good thing that brings about understanding, and new ideas. turns me on. it was the best decision for myself. The tragedy claimed the lives of 32 people and left the country grieving and in shock. (who refused to fire guns at glass bottles. The government can try it's hardest to pointlessly ban the plant, but all prohibition ends up doing is creating an underground market, funds gangs/drug-dealers/criminals and it isn't stopping anybody from smoking the darn thing if they so choose. What would be gained by such a thing, how would you explain the families that lost their loved ones, the fact that anyone can check death records and confirm that these people were killed and how, that anyone can check birth records and other official documents that prove these people did live here and go to school here and so forth, the eye witnesses that saw what happened and have no connection to the government as many of them are still attending VT or going on with other normal lives that can also be easily checked into, the school admitting that this had taken place on their campus which had to be the absolute worst thing a school could have to admit, the interviews with local police and so forth that have worked in that area and know everyone long before this took place saying they saw what happened, etc.etc. The problem of this incidents is that it can be prevented. Wonder if anyone will break it. I bet if someone made a documentary on "How To Think and Reason" no Americans will watch it. When a disturbed person, such as this student or the ones before him, goes on a rampage, many people point their finger at "society" like it was some far away and unchangeable force. I tried one last time to reply to Waldo sans the angst. “We practically forced her to get married.”. thank you for your very constructive critic, you lobbyist for the NRA. A guy in Norway just broke this record. Once again this is an opportunity to rethink the access of weapons in the USA. Definitely a safe haven from the coming Revolution. To ease his family’s plight, Sung-tae Cho left his wife behind to be a laborer in the Middle East, working on oil fields and construction sites in Saudi Arabia for most of the 1980s. It's clear that wald0 made many valid points and you base your entire argument on your own paranoia. And don't let 'jerk52' or any other nincompoop who you're right it wasn't that bad! I have no desire to steal any non-white females, not even the best looking ones, from any other man's race - because I RESPECT the right of each race to prefer to produce children that look like THEM. I bet you that the whole of Scandinavia plus Finland, well even if we include all of Europe (that is almost 500 million people) we are not even close to the number of USA school-shootings. During Cho’s last two years at Virginia Tech, several instances of his aberrant behavior, as well as plays and other writings he submitted contained references to violence, and caused concern among teachers and classmates. It's sad man, sad. I should have clarified VT as "worst mass shooting". Rock the world? Nuts, of course he was — way around the loony bend. Our heritage as a race is only human, not a skin pigment. BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- Cho Seung-Hui said Monday's massacre on the Virginia Tech campus could have been avoided and said "you forced … And this is something which you cant avoid, even with the best sense of sensibility. Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, On 9/11 however, millions believed or knew immediately the hundreds of anomalies. rofl.. u scaredy cats are so funny. My girlfriend walks around with a fun in her purse. There is no money in helping people. Very sad story about an invisible outsider who transformed into a monster. You don't get it. with and opening of "I did not see this documentary but am opposed to gun laws" i did not read his till after your post. @trumpsahead, That said, we have to get to the deeper underlying issue here in the U.S. or this will never really stop. Pic slide show of Virginia Tech shooting news. I mean besides your whole obsession with why the news did not show bloody carnage and dead students, which by the way is customary when covering an event of this nature. But hey, you are the one asserting a fantastic claim so you should be the one that has fantastic evidence to back it up right? This film marks the one year anniversary. Las Vegas, Orlando, Virginia Tech shootings deadliest on long list of U.S. mass shootings. And our kids are really really good looking! selective mutism seems to be a very dangerous disorder :S i was afraid all the time while watching it because it could be anybody around me. I still don't get it if he was retarded or a genius, or it's just the self determination that makes him achieve his goals? I would be the last one to know. Do you think John Kennedy Jr died by accident? Or a bomber, all these "security for liberty" crap is killing me lately. Hi, I stumbled on this because there was another shooting in Santa Monica. Because they all just thought he was just crazy and strange . But when you start this kind of drivel you make the whole crowd look pitiful. And I also think that if you know someone in those places, you are probably not a studentt in any way. When did you see blood? math, english -- i failed those too. Did I ever say 32 students were not killed, no, but it remains a possibility though slight since it does seem families of dead students wanted their governor to Reopen the investigation, which I "believe" (but don't know) is true. The use of violence, deceit, greed, corruption, manipulation and a myriad of other harmful traits are becoming more common place in the daily lives of US citizens. The law cant stop gun movement, only get itself shot trying. I say we start with your fantastical assertion that intelligent and sane people that knew each other, saw each other everyday, some how got confused or decided to lie about whether or not they just saw their friend get shot, just saw their students get shot, or even saw anything at all take place- how the parents of these children that are well known throughout the community as well as their kids have some how fooled the rest of the community that their children got killed. Early in the morning on 16 April 2007, on the Virginia Tech campus in America a 23-year-old student called Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people before turning his gun on himself. Hyang-im’s father had fled south during the Korean War that separated the south from its communist northern neighbor, according to Korean news reports. When the females labeled him as strange . The country you are from, Demark, also spends more per capita on education than any other nation on Earth! Also to say what is wrong with America is wrong, There are fine law abiding citizens there too. "Sung-tae Cho, the killer’s father, came from a poor rural area. We recently had some guy open up at a rally one of our congress women was having, he had a thirty round clip and no one could get him down until he ran out of bullets and tried to reload. How about cigarettes? The key to preventing mass murder...LOL, I believe Khalil Gibran said it best from The Prophet: Read my other reply to your traitor friend. Just like cars are to be blamed for drunk driving. I am just saying that the occasional massacre is just part of the show....and government should not take the right of millions to own whatever weapons they want because of it. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." i said yes and broke down crying hysterically. There are all sorts of reasons why people snap. What's the solution? Well then, you must have sobbed your eyes out during 9/11, since that was the most horrific crime our country has ever seen. You sir, are full of crap. In short, you have lost the debate and now are just stomping your feet and cursing like a five year old throwing a tantrum. Look in the mirror folks, you, me, family, friends, neighbors, we all make up this thing called "society" and I can only change my part in it while helping others to do the same. it was awful. lets start with you. Your naivete really shines: What does the school have to gain you ask. Yet you hold yourself up as some debate god that knows everything we don't. By your logic I could say lots of people from Italy know the Mafia gangsters and lots of Russians know KGB soldiers...but I dunno. Perhaps English is not your first language, or you can blame your American school system. TinaBr - 08/17/2013 at 12:52 . Yea, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured. I'd like to point out that it has never been proven that 9/11 was a false flag operation either, but it was - it happened differently and for a different reason and by different criminals than govt "investigation" says it did. Yes I'm from Ireland, trying to say that alot of people know somebody in the IRA is utter nonsese and then trying to play it dumb by saying I dunno is just silly. No joke. And I think you would have to know them really really good. We don't need 100 or so students returning fire on a mad man. Again, the video's on youtube are all from the five minute loop from Fox. There are several ways to be notified about new content on TDF. Then he could not talk to any females in the school . When we go into a civil war one day soon, you will be on the side that protects the status quo. Is it lack of Gun Control. People like him should just get more attention on the right way and help on the right way. He went from jail to A mental hospital . yes This is a very strange anomaly that must be addressed although I have never heard anyone mention it but me - how come? Did Sirhan Sirhan put the fatal bullet to Robert Kennedy? In a fair trial it would easily be proven beyond reasonable doubt that 9/11 was a Demolition of three buildings, and all the evidence points to the White House. How do you think anyone connected to this on a personal level feels when they hear such insulting nonsense? Prove to me that Cho killed those students. Even spell checker will not improve poor grammar. We know god didnt help that's for sure. And normal. But if you have more proof than just your opinion, I will gladly listen. "The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic and a killer." Once again this is an opportunity to be a Constitutionalist. Then, on Oct 26, 2001, 45 days subsequent to the controlled demolitions, the USA PATRIOT Act was signed into law by President George W. Bush. 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